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Friday, December 31, 2010
Tuesday, December 14, 2010
Verizon 3G to LTE Handover Delay
This is purely my thought and may not be entirely true.
I read news that users of Verizon network are experiencing a delay of 2 minutes when moving from 3G to LTE network. Users are experiencing this when they are continuously transmitting the data. I also read that in few instances subscribers are forced to unplug their dongles and plug them back to get LTE access. I was wondering what could be the reasons and below is what I think!
Frist Reason:-
Verizon network is CDMA based. LTE is GSM based. Since both technologies are entirely different it gives an impression that handovers are not going to be smooth. However 3GPP specs does provide solutions for smooth handovers. So why the delay? The places where LTE is deployed would have had 3G coverage. When a 3G network detects that UE is receiving stronger 4G signal it has to handover the UE to 4G network. But not complete 3G network would have been converged to 4G, so in few cases the 3G network would simply ignore 4G networks presence and make the UE to hook on to it. In this case users should stop transmitting data for a while so the UE may go into idle mode. Once UE is in idle mode and if it wants to send some data, it will perform cell re-selection and choose LTE network instead of 3G thus bringing subscribers back to LTE. This could be one reason why few subscribers had to plug out their dongles and place them back to get 4G access.
Second Reason:-
Next, assume that 3G network is converged to 4G. In this case moving from 3G to 4G should be smooth. But if the network elements are far away then the delay in the core network might result in higher handover time. However movement from 4G to 3G should be smooth, because where there is 4G network, 3G network would have been present and 4G network would have had complete information about it.
The fixes could go in several places. But I am assuming that first reason is what bothering the most and network should be fixed soon. Those who are interested to know more can refer to 3GPP Spec 23.402 for detailed call flows.
I read news that users of Verizon network are experiencing a delay of 2 minutes when moving from 3G to LTE network. Users are experiencing this when they are continuously transmitting the data. I also read that in few instances subscribers are forced to unplug their dongles and plug them back to get LTE access. I was wondering what could be the reasons and below is what I think!
Frist Reason:-
Verizon network is CDMA based. LTE is GSM based. Since both technologies are entirely different it gives an impression that handovers are not going to be smooth. However 3GPP specs does provide solutions for smooth handovers. So why the delay? The places where LTE is deployed would have had 3G coverage. When a 3G network detects that UE is receiving stronger 4G signal it has to handover the UE to 4G network. But not complete 3G network would have been converged to 4G, so in few cases the 3G network would simply ignore 4G networks presence and make the UE to hook on to it. In this case users should stop transmitting data for a while so the UE may go into idle mode. Once UE is in idle mode and if it wants to send some data, it will perform cell re-selection and choose LTE network instead of 3G thus bringing subscribers back to LTE. This could be one reason why few subscribers had to plug out their dongles and place them back to get 4G access.
Second Reason:-
Next, assume that 3G network is converged to 4G. In this case moving from 3G to 4G should be smooth. But if the network elements are far away then the delay in the core network might result in higher handover time. However movement from 4G to 3G should be smooth, because where there is 4G network, 3G network would have been present and 4G network would have had complete information about it.
The fixes could go in several places. But I am assuming that first reason is what bothering the most and network should be fixed soon. Those who are interested to know more can refer to 3GPP Spec 23.402 for detailed call flows.
Wednesday, December 1, 2010
Vodafone launches LTE in Germany
On Dec 1st 2010 Vodafone D2 in Germany has gone live their LTE network. The porject was towards offering high speed boradband in rural areas of Germany. Hope fully everything is going smooth for them.
Link here
Is anyone experiencing the LTE network in Germany? How is it working? Any comments.
Link here
Is anyone experiencing the LTE network in Germany? How is it working? Any comments.
Sunday, November 28, 2010
LTE - Indirect Tunnel during Handover
LTE is a high speed network with an assumption of always on connectivity to packet data network even when UE is moving at high speeds. So during the handovers it is assumed there is no packet loss. But when UE is moving from source network to target network, there is definitely a connection break and make. While the connection is broken and again made at target network, the data to UE is buffered at the source eNB and forwarded to target eNB once the handover is complete. If there is a direct link between source and target eNB then data buffered at the source eNB will sent over it to target eNB. Else indirect tunnel will be used . Below figure shows S1 Handover with SGW Relocation when Indirect Tunnel is used.

This post specifically concentrates on how the buffered data will flow in case of indirect tunnel. Cristina in her blog has very clearly written about this, but I would like to make rather simple explanation
The links in “orange” are normal links and links in “black” form a indirect tunnel. The source eNB decides whether direct tunnel is present or not. If direct tunnel is not present, source eNB SHALL NOT include “Direct Path Forwarding Availability” IE in Handover Required message. To make things a bit simple I am assuming that MME has NOT been re-located, but considered that SGW is relocated. Once MME receives the “Handover Required” message it sees that target eNB is being served by another SGW. So MME will create a new session with target SGW and sends “Handover Request” message to target eNB. Target eNB shall respond with “Handover Request Success” and includes “indirect tunnel DL TEID” that is to be used by target SGW for indirect tunnel, along with normal S1-U DL TEID. Once MME receives this message it shall forward “indirect tunnel DL TEID” to target SGW in “Create Indirect Tunnel Request message”. Now the target SGW gets to know the TEID which it should use for sending data over indirect tunnel and also gets ready to receive the data from source SGW. In Create Indirect Tunnel Response target SGW sends the “DL TEID” that source SGW should use to send data over indirect tunnel towards target SGW. This information is conveyed to source SGW by MME in “Create Indirect tunnel Request”. Now source SGW gets to know that indirect tunnel is created, so it sends a “UL TEID” that source eNB should use to buffered data over indirect tunnel to it. This TEID is sent to source eNB in handover command. This completes the indirect tunnel.
The data flow will be:-
- Source eNB buffered packets to Source SGW over UL TEID that source SGW sent.
- Source SGW sends packets to target SGW over DL TEID that target SGW has sent to MME, which was forwarded to source SGW.
- Target SGW sends packets to target eNB over DL TEID that target eNB has been sent to MME which was sent to target SGW.
- Source eNB buffered packets to Source SGW over UL TEID that source SGW sent.
- Source SGW sends packets to target SGW over DL TEID that target SGW has sent to MME, which was forwarded to source SGW.
- Target SGW sends packets to target eNB over DL TEID that target eNB has been sent to MME which was sent to target SGW.
I know this is bit confusing, but here it is.
Sunday, November 21, 2010
Policies and Rules
With LTE ready for deployment, it is becoming increasingly important for operators to provide dedicated bearers. I had a chance to look at 3G demo, here in India, by one of the operators, and I was not pleased. There was an attempt to stream live TV over 3G supported mobile and stream was pretty bad. I was just wondering how far the base station was and if there was any secondary PDP context in place for enforcing a proper quality of service. Well that’s 3G.
In LTE PCRF is responsible for charging and triggering flow rules. PCRF is an intelligent device which based on the ongoing traffic or existing configuration triggers events towards PGW. There sits PCEF on PGW which is responsible for enforcing the rules triggered by PCRF. The interface between PCRF and PCEF is Gx. Based on the triggers PCEF can go ahead and ask PGW to create a dedicated bearer or modify an existing bearer. UE can request for a bearer creation or modification based on its need. But final decision is with PCEF. On other note I was wondering if LTE UE manufacturers would present any piece of code to mobile application developers for requesting a dedicated bearer for their app?
LTE is supposed to be a high speed network. Will creation of dedicated really matter at such high speeds? Will streaming video all of sudden get better once a dedicated bearer is created for it? Has any operator tested this? How does the result look?
In LTE PCRF is responsible for charging and triggering flow rules. PCRF is an intelligent device which based on the ongoing traffic or existing configuration triggers events towards PGW. There sits PCEF on PGW which is responsible for enforcing the rules triggered by PCRF. The interface between PCRF and PCEF is Gx. Based on the triggers PCEF can go ahead and ask PGW to create a dedicated bearer or modify an existing bearer. UE can request for a bearer creation or modification based on its need. But final decision is with PCEF. On other note I was wondering if LTE UE manufacturers would present any piece of code to mobile application developers for requesting a dedicated bearer for their app?
LTE is supposed to be a high speed network. Will creation of dedicated really matter at such high speeds? Will streaming video all of sudden get better once a dedicated bearer is created for it? Has any operator tested this? How does the result look?
Sunday, October 10, 2010
S4 SGSN
As the LTE deployments are nearing it is becoming increasingly important to bring in smooth handover support between 3G/2G and LTE networks. The networks are on expansion and are becoming complex. In amidst of all, different solutions for same problem is making life a bit more difficult.
While we have a initial solution in place for migrating from 3G to LTE without changing much in the existing 3G network, it has been noticed that the service providers are now thrusting for a more smoother solution. Identifying few pockets of areas service providers are now willing to upgrade their exiting 3G network to be compliant with Release 8. I pity the SGSN for the burden it has to take to not only perform the existing functions but should also start processing LTE related calls.
If the SGSN is migrated to Rel 8, then it has to support two new interfaces. S3 and S4. S3 is between MME and SGSN analogous to Gn interface. But S4 is totally new interface to SGSN analogous to S11 interface. The question is whether a S4 interface is needed at all. When a UE moves from 4G to 3G, SGSN requests for Context Information from MME over S3 interface. If the interface is Gn then protocol would have been GTPv1 which doest create any trouble for SGSN. As S3 is GTPv2 based, SGSN should implement the new protocol. So far so good. Anyway UE is in 3G network, SGSN has pulled the UE information from MME over S3, then what is the need for S4 interface. SGSN can as well simply go and talk to GGSN. Instead of this 3GPP has decide to route the SGSN to SGW over S4 interface. This is mainly done to remove the GGSN node as such.
We know that LTE APNs are configured in PGW. The idea is to reach the same APN in the PGW when UE is either connected from 4G or 3G or 2G. Which means in 3G and 2G it will become the responsibility of SGSN to talk to PGW through SGW. This will simply need no GGSN at all for LTE APNs and more over everything is Rel 8 compliant. The compliance will ensure smoother handovers and continuous data flow. So when a UE directly switches on in 3G network, SGSN will contact SGW for the establishing a session. When there is a handover involved again, SGSN will contact MME over S3 and SGW over S4. Ultimately for 4G APNs there wont be a need for GGSN and PGW to co-exist. Another important thing here will be support for IPv4IPv6 PDN types. This PDN type is not supported in 3G and is a feature of LTE. To ensure that this PDN type is supported over 3G the SGSNs should be Rel 8 compliant.
Hence, SGSNs are overloaded.
Friday, September 17, 2010
SDF, QCI and Dedicated bearers
I had an interesting discussion with one of my friends regarding the dedicated bearers and QCI and thought of posting the same.
SDF- Service Data Flow- An aggregate set of packet flows that matches a set of filters.
QCI – QoS Class Identifier – A parameter that is typically associated to packet forwarding/scheduling etc treatments.
QCI values can be from 1 to 9. Since QCI is an 8 bit field it can have 255 values. Values 10 to 255 are operator specific. A bearer is always associated with a QCI. A UE can have a max of 11 bearers but QCI are from 1 to 9. Which means the QCI can be repeated for the bearers.
Each bearer is also associated with TFT. Yes, even the default bearer can be assigned a TFT after the recent spec changes. TFT can have multiple packet filters resulting in multiple SDFs. Now the confusion is with this statement - “Each Service Data Flow (SDF) is associated with one and only one QoS Class Identifier (QCI).”
Since two dedicated bearers can have same QCI the above statement leads to confusion. Reading the statement again makes sense. A bearer is associated with QCI and set of packet filters that will lead to multiple SDF’s. This means multiple SDF’s can be treated with same type of service but one SDF cannot be given multiple treatments. This also means that you cannot assign same packet filter to two dedicated bearers. Hence the above statement!
SDF- Service Data Flow- An aggregate set of packet flows that matches a set of filters.
QCI – QoS Class Identifier – A parameter that is typically associated to packet forwarding/scheduling etc treatments.
QCI values can be from 1 to 9. Since QCI is an 8 bit field it can have 255 values. Values 10 to 255 are operator specific. A bearer is always associated with a QCI. A UE can have a max of 11 bearers but QCI are from 1 to 9. Which means the QCI can be repeated for the bearers.
Each bearer is also associated with TFT. Yes, even the default bearer can be assigned a TFT after the recent spec changes. TFT can have multiple packet filters resulting in multiple SDFs. Now the confusion is with this statement - “Each Service Data Flow (SDF) is associated with one and only one QoS Class Identifier (QCI).”
Since two dedicated bearers can have same QCI the above statement leads to confusion. Reading the statement again makes sense. A bearer is associated with QCI and set of packet filters that will lead to multiple SDF’s. This means multiple SDF’s can be treated with same type of service but one SDF cannot be given multiple treatments. This also means that you cannot assign same packet filter to two dedicated bearers. Hence the above statement!
Wednesday, August 25, 2010
Roaming trouble
What makes cellular communication standout from other wireless technologies is its roaming ability. No matter in which country you are just dial the number and talk. This makes mobile communication truly mobile. But the technology behind is not that simple.
I was wondering how difficult will it get for an operator to maintain so many roaming agreements. A given operator may have to maintain like, say, 100 roaming agreements. Well considering LTE a given MME will have to talk to 100 different HSSs and SGW will have to communicate to 100 different PGWs. Whoa!
There is a nice way to maintain the list of PGWs based on the various APNs. MME informs the SGW which PGW it has to contact for which IMSI. The S8 interface is UDP based and DNS maintains detailed records of APN to PGW mappings. So its relatively easy to fetch a PGW and establish a tunnel for the user. But for HSS its little complicated. Now that HSS runs on diameter, there are several solutions proposed to reach home hss from visiting network. Also diameter runs on tcp or sctp which means there is always a connection established. This is quite difficult as the MME has to reach several HSS across the world. Looking forward to some interesting solutions here. Diameter relays, proxies ?
I was wondering how difficult will it get for an operator to maintain so many roaming agreements. A given operator may have to maintain like, say, 100 roaming agreements. Well considering LTE a given MME will have to talk to 100 different HSSs and SGW will have to communicate to 100 different PGWs. Whoa!
There is a nice way to maintain the list of PGWs based on the various APNs. MME informs the SGW which PGW it has to contact for which IMSI. The S8 interface is UDP based and DNS maintains detailed records of APN to PGW mappings. So its relatively easy to fetch a PGW and establish a tunnel for the user. But for HSS its little complicated. Now that HSS runs on diameter, there are several solutions proposed to reach home hss from visiting network. Also diameter runs on tcp or sctp which means there is always a connection established. This is quite difficult as the MME has to reach several HSS across the world. Looking forward to some interesting solutions here. Diameter relays, proxies ?
Tuesday, August 17, 2010
CS Fallback - A Study
UE attaching to EUTRAN & CS Networks
SMS is delivered over signaling channel. This means there will be no data path established to deliver or receive SMS. SMS will be sent over a signaling message. Exactly for this reason, SMS delivery or reception doesn’t need UE to fall back to CS network. Once the UE is attached to both MSC and EUTRAN and if MSC wants to deliver a SMS to UE, it will simply send a downlink unit data to MME with SMS content. MME will dump this message in NAS message and send it to UE. In the same way if UE wants to send a SMS it will dump the message in NAS message and send it to MME. MME will extract SMS content and send it to MSC over Sgs interface. This operation doesn’t need UE to fall back to CS network thus ensuring smooth delivery of SMS.
Mobile Orginated SMS delivery in Idle mode
One important thing to note here is that MME should keep a proper mapping of Tracking Area and Location Area. This is because MME needs to know to which MSC the UE should be connected to, based on the tracking area received in attach request. MME will map the tracking area to the corresponding location area and will pick the MSC based on the location area.
All the details regarding CS Fallback are present in 3GPP TS 23.272. Refer to same for all the call flows.
Sunday, August 1, 2010
Mandate CS Fallback
There is so much debate going on about voice technology that should be used over LTE. I have my view here. Before a proper voice technology is figured out, I would assume that CS fallback will become a mandatory feature on all LTE phones. Though VoLGA and IMS seem to be good solutions, but they don’t solve many other issues, like roaming for e.g.
Its obvious that LTE phones will support 3G/2G technologies. Also with release 8 SGSN’s coming in the packet handovers to 3G/2G technologies from LTE and vice versa would be smooth. This means LTE phones are already equipped with 3G/2G chipsets. If so then why cant CS fallback be made mandatory?
Yes, agreed that to access a voice call one should be cut out of LTE. But at least I am able to make a voice call even if I am not in my home network. Analyzing how the voice call can disrupt the packet service for individual users can be a separate case study. For e.g corporate users are heavily dependent on emails. So if voice call lands on their mobile the LTE service will switched off for couple of minutes which is very acceptable for an email user. Rest may not be convinced, but it does solve the problem.
One more point is SMS. I heard that SMS is mandatory in Europe, that is if a user is roaming then the roaming charges(?) should be informed to the subscriber by an SMS. If that is the case the CS fall back does help with smooth delivery of SMS over Sgs interface. However this may not be a permanent solution. As the technologies mature we can find a better way to deal with voice and data co-existence without breaking each others connection. Untill then operators please give us CS fall back support and also do not mess up your networks with putting many additional nodes.
Its obvious that LTE phones will support 3G/2G technologies. Also with release 8 SGSN’s coming in the packet handovers to 3G/2G technologies from LTE and vice versa would be smooth. This means LTE phones are already equipped with 3G/2G chipsets. If so then why cant CS fallback be made mandatory?
Yes, agreed that to access a voice call one should be cut out of LTE. But at least I am able to make a voice call even if I am not in my home network. Analyzing how the voice call can disrupt the packet service for individual users can be a separate case study. For e.g corporate users are heavily dependent on emails. So if voice call lands on their mobile the LTE service will switched off for couple of minutes which is very acceptable for an email user. Rest may not be convinced, but it does solve the problem.
One more point is SMS. I heard that SMS is mandatory in Europe, that is if a user is roaming then the roaming charges(?) should be informed to the subscriber by an SMS. If that is the case the CS fall back does help with smooth delivery of SMS over Sgs interface. However this may not be a permanent solution. As the technologies mature we can find a better way to deal with voice and data co-existence without breaking each others connection. Untill then operators please give us CS fall back support and also do not mess up your networks with putting many additional nodes.
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